From: Peter Ponzol [pponzol@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 9:12 AM To: The Vintage Saxophone Gallery Subject: RE: Keilwerth Modell Peter Ponzol Hi Pete, I will try and answer your questions without going into my life story. A lot of this information is in a Saxophone Journal interview from late 1992 or 1993. I was a consultant for the Lyricon in the late 70's while living as a jazz and studio player in NYC. I believe that it was 1980 that I demonstrated the Lyricon at the Frankfurt Music Fair. There I met the people from Buffet ( which had just been purchased by Boosey & Hawkes). They invited me to come to the factory after the show and try some of their saxophones which I did. After returning to NYC I became involved with the US part of the company in an effort to make a Buffet for the jazz market. During an extended 1981 stay in Europe on a Grant from the German Government I began to work on prototypes at the factory in Mantes. There was a problem in that B&H wanted a saxophone for the jazz market and Buffet saw the saxophone world as classical. My prototypes were never realized and B&H sent me to Keilwerth, which was in the same German village as B&H Germany, to see what I thought of the Keilwerth horns. I saw a lot of potential in these horns and B&H had Keilwerth make 100 horns with the Buffet logo and engraving. After realizing that Buffet was never going to change and being frustrated that my ideas were not being utilized, I left Buffet in 1985. I then approached Keilwerth which was still a small family company to see if they would be interested in my ideas. We redesigned the saxophone they had been making for Conn/Armstrong by moving tone holes and designing a new neck. The saxophones they had been making were all flat in the palm keys so I suggested making the tone holes larger to raise the pitch. 1986 saw the introduction of the Modell Peter Ponzol for the European market and the making of saxophones with only the Keilwerth name. By the way I moved to Germany in 1981 and was very busy as a jazz player playing all over Europe and with the Jazz Ensemble on the Frankfurt Radio Station HR. We built an excellent European market for Keilwerth and in 1989 Boosey & Hawkes took over Keilwerth. I worked closely with Gerhard Keilwerth who is an excellent technician. I would give Gerhard an idea and on my next visit to the factory he would have some possibilities for me to try. My position was that of consultant and tester. I would go in the factory once a week to test my models and in general check on the production. We also did many workshops throughout Europe. I began making mouthpieces in 1985 and we tied both products into our workshops. My model came with a Ponzol mouthpiece, a different neck which was personally chosen by me for each instrument and I did all the final testing on all Ponzol saxophones and the gaurantee card bore my signature. As I mentioned, the G# mechanism, adjustable palm keys and F arm with adjusting screw were all developed on my model. Being a jazz player of course my goal was to make first a good saxophone and second one that was aimed at the largest market. During marketing studies we found that classical saxophone represented 3% of the world market in 1985. I was never able to get Keilwerth to change the size of the bow which I feel causes the sound to spread too much. We made a prototype with a smaller bow that I thought was fantastic, but it was never put into production. B&H did not like using my name on the saxophone and had no desire to make further major changes to the saxophones so I became too expensive and my involvement with the company ended in March 1993. I then returned to the US after a wonderful 12 years in Europe. The Modell Ponzol became the SX90 but without real rolled tone holes and with a different neck. I would not like to make a comparison between my model and the new Keilwerth saxophones. As to necks, I learned with Keilwerth and Buffet how important the neck was and made many notes about various experiments. Remember that I had a factory at my disposal so every time I had an idea I received a prototype for testing. Seeing that the current method of making necks is good for production but not always the best for the instrument I decided that there was a good market for necks that would play better than the factory necks. I am a strong believer in the neck being the same material as the body of the saxophone. In principal the ideal saxophone would be one piece, but it is totally impractical. I have experimented with necks of different materials and find a mismatch in the overtones. As to wooden necks, I think that it is asking for problems. I made about 100 wooden mouthpieces and know very well the problems of wood and moisture. In theory the material should have no influence on the sound and I strongly believe that. However different materials have different resistance and this causes you to play differently in order to compensate for more or less resistance. I am involved in some new projects which I can't discuss at the moment, but perhaps in the near future I can give you information about these also. Hope this answers your questions. I'm not sure what photos you would want but I would send you a bio and recent photo if you give me your physical address. Best regards, Peter Ponzol > [Original Message] > From: The Vintage Saxophone Gallery > To: > Date: 9/24/2003 12:18:29 AM > Subject: RE: Keilwerth Modell Peter Ponzol > > I haven't yet gotten the interview process down yet, but this may > change > soon: I work at a newspaper (as a computer tech) and some of the technique > may rub off on me. Anyhow, I think these are the most important questions I > have: > > 1. How did you get involved with Keilwerth? What was your position > and "mission" there? 2. When and why did you leave Keilwerth? > 3. The Peter Ponzol Modell Keilwerth horn does bear some resemblance to the > H-Couf Superbas. I have heard, though, that some toneholes are offset (not > to mention the other changes you've listed). Does this horn have a > completely different bore? Is the horn a completely different design? How > was the horn developed? Was the horn designed solely by you or was > there a > team of designers/consultants that assisted (e.g., like the > "Roundtable of Music Craftsmen" that helped with the design of the > Martin Committee)? 4. What did you specifically design the Peter > Ponzol model for (e.g., "I was trying to design the best jazz horn on > the planet!")? Do you think you > accomplished what you intended with this design or do you think, in > retrospect (or with newer technologies), that you could have done something > better? > 5. I tend to think that Keilwerth built upon the Peter Ponzol Modell design > for the SX90. Do you agree? What do you like/dislike about the new > Keilwerths in comparison to your model? 6. I've heard a bit about > your custom necks. How did you get started doing > this? What's involved in the process? Can you custom make any neck, > or only Selmer and Yamaha? Any new designs you're thinking about? > Tim Price has "promoted" new wooden necks. What do you think about > using wood as a material for a sax, particularly for a neck? 7. Can > you supply a brief bio? What do you have planned for the future? > > If you have any pictures or other files you'd like me to have or use, please > send to saxpics@x-mail.net: this Hotmail account has a size limit. > > Thank you again for contacting me and taking the time out for this. I > really appreciate it, especially because you're indulging my time > constraints: I have a newborn daughter that should be needing a > feeding pretty soon ... > > Pete "saxpics" Hales > Moderator, The Sax-on-the-Web Forum (http://forum.saxontheweb.net) > Webmaster, The Vintage Saxophone Gallery (http://www.saxpics.com) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Ponzol [mailto:pponzol@mindspring.com] > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:30 AM > To: Vintage Saxophone Gallery > Subject: Re: Keilwerth Modell Peter Ponzol > > Hi, > > Thanks for the quick reply. Sure contact me anytime, I probably have quite > a bit of information that you might find interesting. > > Best regards, > > Peter Ponzol > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Vintage Saxophone Gallery > > To: > > Date: 9/19/2003 11:23:49 AM > > Subject: Re: Keilwerth Modell Peter Ponzol > > > > Thank you for the information. I'd love to prepare a couple more > questions > > for you to answer, if you're amenable, but I don't have time at the > moment. > > May I send you another e-mail later, maybe in a couple days? > > > > > > >From: "Peter Ponzol" > > >Reply-To: pponzol@mindspring.com > > >To: saxpics@gmail.com > > >Subject: Keilwerth Modell Peter Ponzol > > >Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:40:01 -0400 > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >This is Peter Ponzol and I want to correct some information on your > > >Keilwerth web site. The Modell Peter Ponzol was made from 1986 until I > left > > >the company in 1993, not for three years as your site states. When > > >I > > >joined Keilwerth as consultant and designer in 1985 (after having worked > > >for Buffet for three years), I convinced Keilwerth to stop making > stencil > > >instruments and to build a reputation for the Keilwerth name by > > >making > only > > >Keilwerth instruments. My model was the top of the line and was the last > to > > >have real rolled tone holes. These instruments are much sought > > >after in > > >Europe. My model had a different neck which was chosen by me to > > >match > each > > >saxophone, and I personally went in the factory every week to test every > > >Ponzol saxophone. It was on my model that the following were developed: > > >adjustable palm keys, right hand F arm bridge with adjusting screw > > >and > the > > >G# lever which prevents sticking of the G# key. Also the few > > >Keilwerh > > >copper horns made were all Ponzol models. > > > > > >By the way, since Graslitz was in the Sudentland technically all > Keilwerth > > >horns were made in Germany. This area belonged to Germany until > > >the end > of > > >World War 2 when Keilwerth moved to Nauheim, W. Germany along with > > >the > > >Winter and Schreiber families. > > > > > >Hope this clears up some of your information, please contact me if > > >you > have > > >any questions about my involvement in any of these companies. > > > > > >Best regards, > > > > > >Peter Ponzol > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. > > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > >